Tines’ Field CISO Matt Muller on security’s communications problem and the future of the SOC

In a recent episode of The Future of Security Operations podcast, host Thomas Kinsella converses with Matt Muller, the Field CISO at Tines, about his extensive experience and insights from working with companies like Material Security and Coinbase. Matt discusses his journey from a business degree to becoming a security leader, emphasizing his role in scaling Coinbase's security team from three to fifty personnel and the lessons learned in risk management. The conversation highlights the challenges security teams face in communicating their value, the evolving role of CISOs as chief risk advisors, and strategies for effective security automation. Matt shares his perspective on the importance of refining processes before automating them and the nuanced role of AI in security operations, cautioning against its overuse without proper human oversight. He also critiques the traditional Security Operations Center (SOC) model and stresses the need for better feedback loops and comprehensive training to address the cybersecurity talent gap.