In a podcast episode of the Future of Security Operations, Thomas interviews Andreas Schneider, the Field CISO EMEA at Lacework, where they discuss various aspects of cybersecurity. Andreas, with over two decades of experience, began his career defending mainframes and later built a security team in the Swiss broadcasting industry. Key topics in this discussion include Andreas's accidental entry into security, his subsequent career development, and his decision to join Lacework after using its platform as a customer. The conversation also addresses the need for security to adapt with the shift to DevOps, the evolving role of the CISO, and the importance of culture and accountability. Additionally, Andreas emphasizes the necessity of discussing security failures, prioritizing developer communication, and selecting the right vendors to prevent alert fatigue. He also highlights the future significance of machine learning and automation in security operations, while noting that human behavior remains a significant risk.