In a new video interview series, Sauce Labs CEO Aled Miles is joined by Carwyn Jones, former First Minister of Wales, in an informal conversation about leadership, politics, and life experiences. Aled Miles hosts the discussion as part of his "Unscripted" series, where he engages with guests from various backgrounds to share insights on digital confidence and business. The conversation also touches on a memorable encounter between Carwyn Jones and former US President Barack Obama.