A conversation with Mr. NHI (Lalit Choda) highlights the growing challenge of managing non-human identities (NHIs) in cybersecurity, as these identities increasingly outnumber human ones and complicate identity management strategies. Despite significant investments in IAM, IGA, and PAM platforms, security teams still face gaps, especially concerning NHIs in multi-cloud and hybrid environments. The primary concern is not the sheer number of NHIs, but the myriad access pathways they create to sensitive systems, raising the risk of unauthorized access to critical assets. The industry is urged to shift from fear-based metrics to risk-based frameworks that focus on reducing exposure paths. While the established pillars of identity security—IAM, IGA, and PAM—remain crucial, they must evolve to address both human and non-human identities effectively. The discussion emphasizes the urgency of adapting to these challenges before threats become apparent.