We are joined today by Ben Curtis from Honeybadger, a web developer and entrepreneur with 20 years of experience. He shares his insights on building a successful product, the importance of a good developer blog, and how to engage with users through newsletters. Ben talks about using Terraform, Ansible, Fargate, and AWS in production, and how he believes that automation is key to punching above one's weight as an organization. He also discusses the challenges of measuring the effectiveness of developer relations efforts and the importance of creating a culture of experimentation and learning. Ben emphasizes the value of abstraction layers in software development, citing examples from his experience with Docker, AWS Fargate, and Terraform. He shares his vision for the future of infrastructure ecosystems, where systems can be designed to automatically deploy code and handle performance issues without human intervention. Finally, Ben offers advice to aspiring entrepreneurs, emphasizing the importance of developing a love of learning and being open to new experiences.