The interview between Prof. Michael Jordan and Prof. Shafi Goldwasser delves into the complexities of ethical AI, focusing on how human values such as privacy, fairness, transparency, and trust must be integrated into AI systems to ensure ethical decision-making. They explore the intersection of economics, computer science, and statistics in addressing real-world problems, emphasizing the importance of incorporating social sciences and law in the responsible deployment of AI technologies. The discussion highlights the necessity of public education on AI terminology and its implications, as well as strategies to build trust in machine-learning systems through audit, recourse, and benchmarking. Prof. Jordan stresses the importance of developing systematic approaches to the interaction between technology and humans, underscoring the potential benefits of ethical AI not only for society but also for business.